The last few days on the blog have been an awesome debate.

If you missed all the fun check it out right here before you read today’s post.

Anyway Eric from the blog posed this question to me and I thought it would be great to post.

David,

You’re a good guy and I generally like you’re advice, but I just wanted to point out something that I think got lost in that little tug of war above (who I’m guessing won’t be allowed back). I’ll make my point and hope you consider it.

I really hope that you and your coaches take that particular opener out of your repertoire. I did pretty much the exact same thing, except with a more detailed critique and the girls loved it and we talked…. but later at the club I felt kind of guilty about it. The dudes were actually nice guys and I felt like I got an advantage at their expense. When you go with an opener like that (although may not have been intended), it’s essentially making fun of those guys and their ineptness. Considering most of your clients and readership would be at those guys skill level or worse…there are so many other openers to go with.

Eric

I Want My Mommy

I posted a response to Eric in yesterdays blog and when I was done I realized this would make a great blog today.

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Eric

Everyone is allowed back on the blog.
I enjoy a great debate and the blog has been set up so everyone can voice their opinions.
I welcome Bob back.

You felt guilty because they were good guys and you now want to stop using that approach.
How about if you shared that approach with the guys so they could learn how to do it the right way.
How about telling them what you did and actually help them out so they can have more fun, and not get frustrated by the end of the night. That is essentially what I do everyday with all of my coaching clients. I get them to man up and learn from their mistakes.

What you just did was mother them.

You wanted to protect them so they they would not be taken advantage of. Can you imagine when guys come to me for coaching, instead of just working with them and helping them through their mistakes, I gave them a huge hug and protected them from the evil world of meeting women. I would basically not be doing my job. The whole point of what we are doing here is to learn and become comfortable in all social settings.

So with your mindset why don’t we make a list of all the potential openers that guys are afraid to use.
That we way we may be left with a few that everyone feels ok about.

Have you bought any of my products?
You are aware that everything I teach is based on natural observations, that way the conversation just flows.

I also teach every man to learn from their mistakes and most important have fun when they go out. What I love most about what I do is getting a man or woman to see past their fears and have that break through that has eluded them for years.
Life is all about having fun and not taking this so seriously.
This is all about growing and learning from each other.
This is not settling world peace.
It is all about going out on a weekend night and having great conversations with total strangers. That is what life is all about and everyone needs to get out of their heads and into the game called life.

You sound like a nice guy but the guilty feeling you had after is sweet, but why do you want to be their mothers?

And how do the rest of you feel about this and yesterdays post?