Are You Mr. Indecision?

Jared

Saturday, March 30th, 2013

Thank you for calling me out David. This is me and it's very frustrating.

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Grant

Sunday, March 31st, 2013

Hi everyone I just received this email today from David Wygant and it perfectly states my philosophy on not being a quitter. Although this email seems to address me personally it's just one of those emails that inserts the each persons name from David's email list of his email subscribers. "Hi Grant, Life is about persistence. Most quitters never get anywhere in life. Most quitters quit before the day even starts. Quitters have trigger points. They'll start the day off feeling good for about 30 seconds, and then all of a sudden a negative thought will go into their brain. And immediately they'll go into a downward spiral. Trigger points — we all have them. How to avoid them, now that’s the question Grant. Quitters don’t avoid them, and that’s why quitters never get laid. They quit before they're even in the game. They make up all the excuses, the reasons why a women will not go out with them before they even approach. When they ask a woman out and she says no, they'll immediately think that it’s time to quit. They won't even ask for an explanation. If she said that she has a boyfriend, they won't even say, “Hey maybe we should get to know each other as friends.” Right now, quitter is thinking to himself, “But David, we're already in the friend zone so much, why do we need another friend?” But my friend zone and your friend zone are entirely different places because a lot of women I was once friends with turned out be lovers, girlfriends, and long-term relationships — I negotiate the friend zone far different than every other man in this country. I don’t give up; I don’t quit; quitters never get laid. How do you feel when you start every single day Grant? Do you feel like you can conquer the world, or do you allow your fears to come into your brain? Fear equals quitting. And quitters never get laid. So here's the deal Grant: It's time for a quick mindset change. It's time for you to start seeing the abundance of life. It's time for you to start understanding how life is meant to be lived. And it's time for you to invest in yourself. I'm going to share with you my secret to how I succeed in every aspect of my life. These things are very personal to me…so personal that I have never shared them with anybody. I'm going to tell you tell you about how I stopped quitting and started getting laid… a lot. Click the link below: https://www.davidwygant.com/mens-products/advanced/ Your friend, David Wygant"

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Hugh

Sunday, March 31st, 2013

I like the section of David's letter to Grant that advises : When a man asks a woman out and she "shoots him down" saying no, HE NEVER ASKS HER WHY NOT ? Also: When a man gets "shot down" by her rejection to go out, he never objects by asking if IT'S OK IF WE COULD JUST BE FRIENDS ? Gosh, I think these responses are absolutely AWESOME ! Seriously, I would have quit as David said after I heard the 1st No. These 2 responses put a man right back into the game- no foolin around. Thanks David & Grant !!!

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Hugh

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Okay Grant, I comprehendi seniorie. The last part of your post was worth repeating though. Some ding-dong would probably say to you concerning your emphasis: "Beg your pardon"? OMG !! The laughter, then cold silence following. HAHAHAHAHA Have a good one Grant !!

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Hi Hugh, good to hear from you !!! “I like the section of David’s letter to Grant that advises : When a man asks a woman out and she “shoots him down” saying no, HE NEVER ASKS HER WHY NOT ?” I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this Hugh but consider things like this: If you ask a woman out and maybe the timing ain't quite perfect and you catch her off guard she might just automatically give you a 'no' response out of habit and then kick herself for reacting soooo quickly. So if the woman you just asked out has that deer in the headlights look don't immediately write her off or think that something bad has happened as you most likely just caught her off guard. Also a 'no' means 'no' in the moment but in the very next moment she might change her mind and say 'yes' so hang around for a few minutes and turn on the charm and see what happens. Also REMEMBER THIS ESPECIALLY: IF SHE GIVES YOU A 'YES' YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO RESCIND THAT OFFER IN THE NEXT MOMENT IF SHE STARTS ACTING LIKE AN IDIOT AND THINKS SHE NOW OWNS YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO THE IDEA HERE IS NEVER GIVE AWAY YOUR POWER. A WOMAN HAS EVERY RIGHT TO CHANGE HER MIND ABOUT DATING YOU AT ANY TIME BUT SOOOO DO YYYOOOUUU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ps I'm not shouting at anyone I'm just emphasizing the important points :):):) Grant

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Grant

Sunday, March 31st, 2013

Say I’m still pretty new here and a thought occurred to me and that thought is is there any way on David’s blog to contact other members of this blog so that if we have some kind of issue we can deal with it in private instead of having to air our dirty laundry in public. If there isn’t maybe this is something David Wygant should look into so that us men don’t have to do a lot of posturing like were in a street fight and I don’t have to make the choice of whether to get my point across to a woman vs making her feel bad or hurting her feelings. If David can’t come up with a solution I have one but I don’t want to draw business away from David’s site unless he gives me full permission to do so !!! Grant

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Hugh

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Grant how did the Comedy Club work out for you? Thinking that on the way to the men's room, during break, you were hitting on women left and right without letting the g/f onto this? Correct ? If the g/f saw WTF you were up to, she would've slapped your silly rear end silly. That's what you get for hanging out with feisty ones.

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Hugh

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Groovie ... at least you went out. Hey... what's that form of Asian theater where the women wear that overload of white make-up and are silent throughout, tip toeing around with their kimonos & gingerly flicking their pretty fans painted with the fancy birds and roosters ?? Sort of like mime dancers ?? ( If you watch some of those Bond flicks , Bond would have guessed that that pretty rooster fan was hiding a concealed piece ) ? G/f maybe would have enjoyed this style... Would it have been worth trucking it all the way out to Toronto though?? Dude the pocket book would have been mighty sore for a 1st date bro !!

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Hi Hugh, I think my mother enjoyed the comedy club more than my date but my date is Chinese and although she is sharp enough to be a bank teller she's only lived in Canada for 3 years and I don't think she understands the subtleties of our humor. Admittedly I did discreetly look(I'm human) at other women when I was there but I would never hit on a woman when I'm with a date even if no one would ever find out as that's very disrespectful even if the date doesn't seem to be going very well, which it wasn't. Grant

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chrisb

Sunday, March 31st, 2013

Grant how about you just let it go? if you haven't noticed by now there are some people who are just interested in getting some attention and nothing else.

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Grant

Sunday, March 31st, 2013

Hi Chrisb, the problem is that let it go also means to quit. If I had an election debate and I didn't do so well would you tell me to just let it go(quit)? If I entered a talent show and I gave a bit of a shaky performance would you tell me to just let it go(quit)? If I had a date and I felt it went poorly would you tell me to just let her go(quit)? Have you ever thought to yourself that maybe I'm here to remind you never to quit even on the small things because you know very well that if it's easy to quit on the small things it's even easier to quit on the big things such as: She seems to like me but she's just so pretty that I don't have a chance with her. I'd like to try for that small promotion but I know I'm just not smart enough. I'd like to enter that little dance competition but I have no chance of ever winning. Grant

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Hugh

Sunday, March 31st, 2013

Grant how did that commedy club turn out? Start any conversations with any hot women there? (on the way to the men's room of course as your g/f would have smacked you silly). Admit it guy, you like the company of the fiesty ones !!!

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Hugh

Sunday, March 31st, 2013

Guys, How effective is walking over to a woman and just doing a simple introduction , or saying hello? The advantage here. Almost foolproof, and even if she works for the NYPD in New York she wouldn't notice. Can't be filed away by her as a "pick up line" OR worse, borrowing a line from a stand up comedian at a Comedy Club after enjoying the show with a g/f and mother? ((Sound familiar GRANT ?)) !!! Hell, I can see Grant scooping up a bunch of new women all over the place after having some fresh pick up material. **(Just kidding man, I know you can handle it. Hey... this is only the flop card in Texas Holdum , no need to bluff yet or be "all in" in that super aggressive no limit game mode that turns your wheels ). **

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

:):):)

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R

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Just wondering. If you really like a person a lot. Soul mate material. She keeps rejecting you. You're not a quitter. No pun here. But is there a time when you do actually have to quit ? Reply appreciated. Thanks !

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Hi April, let's say you live somewhere where they have tornadoes and a big tornado comes along and completely flattens your house. Now you can hang around and live in motels etc and not quit on the idea of living in that house again if you decide to rebuilt it but you might also just say f**k this 'I'm moving on' !!! So there's a time to NOT quit but there is a time to be 'moving on'. If a so called soul mate keeps rejecting you then after a certain stated period of time(write 60 days from now on your calendar, or whatever, where if nothing changes you'll be 'moving on'). Now for all you know your act of 'moving on'(being willing to permanently walk away!!!) may make her change her mind about you or NOT but at least your making the decision from your own base of power and NOT her's. Grant

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Your welcome R :)

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

:):):)

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R

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Thanks for the input Grant.

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Mar

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Sigh. Quitting is two fold. Someone who quits drugs, alcohol, gambling, cheating, stealing, eating unhealthy food, reckless lifestyle, being lazy, rude, settling for less, blaming others for their woes, who quits a dead end job, a dead end relationship, a dead end debates,

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! ALRIGHT! ALRIGHT! How about this? If someone posts something nasty about me and if no one comes to the aid of poor little old me within 12 hours of the time stamp of their nasty post and tells them off on my behalf then I will be forced by my code of honor and the code of the hills to defend myself appropriately...deal? :):):) I said deal or no deal? :):):) Grant

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Mar

Monday, April 1st, 2013

who quits being dead beat father, etc, etc, etc.......they all can be considered quitters as well. Honestly, I don't want this thread (or any other thread) to be a continuation of the previous one. Lets move forward.

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Fair enough so deal or no deal?

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Okay Mar we have a deal but remember it's 12 hours and it your sick or you go on vacation or you with a fine woman and you forget then the nasty person will must assuredly get an *ss whoppin from me post haste after 12 hours and 1 minute has passed !!! :):):) Grant :):):)

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Mar

Monday, April 1st, 2013

sounds good Grant

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Mar

Monday, April 1st, 2013

".....having a simple conversation—like he does with friends and people at work—is the only way to start a conversation with a woman." I think we focus too much on saying something clever, impressive, or unlike what they would normally say..... and this creates a lot of indecisiveness and fear. "I didn't know what to say to her", is a common excuse. But, lets just connect on a simple conversation with women. It doesn't have to be filled with flirty overtones. Just socialize with no added pressure on ourselves. Make the goal a good interaction rather than a phone number and the numbers will naturally come.

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

“…..having a simple conversation—like he does with friends and people at work—is the only way to start a conversation with a woman.” Could be a silly/stupid/playful conversation as those are pretty good too :) :):) Grant

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Hugh

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Exactly Mar !

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

“…..having a simple conversation—like he does with friends and people at work—is the only way to start a conversation with a woman.” Could be a silly/stupid/playful conversation as those are pretty good too :):):) Grant

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Hi everyone, something that I'm having success with now is handing out kids deputy Sheriff's badges to women. They cost me less than a dollar each but there shiny gold in color and you've never seen a women's face light up when I offer to Deputize her and give her one of these very inexpensive badges. The next thing I'm going to try is to playfully have them take an oath if they really want the badge or they aren't going to get one. So here's what I'm going to ask them to do/say: I'm going to get them to hold the badge in their right hand over their heart and say repeat after me: “I ______ do solemnly swear to uphold the law of ______to the best of my ability and one more thing Cock a doodle doo !!! :):):) If they refuse to do a good "Cock a doodle doo" then I will playfully ask them to turn in their badge so that the don't bring any shame to the department :):):) Grant Grant

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

ps I almost forgot that when I'm doing this whole playful bit with women I adopt the voice of a Sheriff from the deep South and really ham it up with all sorts of Southern 'spressions' and 'sayins' :):):) Grant

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Yes Hugh I'm a Blondie(Debby Harry) fan but I don't think I remember "IN THE FLESH" nor do I like it after listening to it but my favorite Blondie song is Heart of Glass !!! So how old are you Hugh and do you live in the USA? “Hey... you ever get slapped or have a drink thrown in your face ?” You would think that with the 'mouth' that people claim I have that that would be true but on both counts sort of. The last time that I was slapped in the face was by a man in acting class back in 1989 and I've never had a drink thrown at my face but I have been too close to someone who had a pitcher of beer thrown at them. I guess he deserved it but I didn't...oh well such is life :):):) Grant

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Hugh

Monday, April 1st, 2013

That's cool Grant you listened to the song. And if you didn't like it well... I sense you're into Blondie (Debby Harry). I dig her song "IN THE FLESH" . How about having those lyrics sung for you by a babe? I liked the utube trailer for the song "Blow Me One Last Kiss" showing Pink with her bad/boy boyfriend, especially when they're together in the woods and both going for the kiss and his cell phone rings as he's chatting it up with another woman so Pink gets mad and throws the red wine in his face... Hey... you ever get slapped or have a drink thrown in your face ?

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Hi Hugh, I listened to the Pink song and I didn't like it. I then looked at the lyrics to see if there was anything interesting there and when I read them I thought OMG!!! what a depressing song. I'll just leave it at that because if you really like this song I don't want to piss you off but you did ask for my opinion(sort of). Grant

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Hi Hugh, the :) :):) was for “Ahhh, Ha,ha,ha, He ,he, ahhhh hah,ha, ah, ha,ha,” and not “Question Grant, Hey .. of late, you been listening to that song by Pink, “Blow me one last Kiss”. No offence. Just curious.” Something is wrong with the technology on that one for some reason as I tried twice. I’ll answer the music question later as now I’m off to buy more Deputy Sheriff badges :) :):) Grant

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

:) :):) !!!!!!

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

:):):) !!!!!!

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Hugh

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Question Grant, Hey .. of late, you been listening to that song by Pink, "Blow me one last Kiss". No offence. Just curious.

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Hugh

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Ahhh, Ha,ha,ha, He ,he, ahhhh hah,ha, ah, ha,ha,

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Hi Hugh, the :):):) was for "Ahhh, Ha,ha,ha, He ,he, ahhhh hah,ha, ah, ha,ha," and not "Question Grant, Hey .. of late, you been listening to that song by Pink, “Blow me one last Kiss”. No offence. Just curious." Something is wrong with the technology on that one for some reason as I tried twice. I'll answer the music question later as now I'm off to buy more Deputy Sheriff badges :):):)

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Hugh

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Not a problem Grant... Hey , You must wear a policeman's hat of some sort too ! AT the least, this expresses some authority and power that turns on some of the more visual types of ladies.

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

"Hey , You must wear a policeman's hat of some sort too ! AT the least, this expresses some authority and power that turns on some of the more visual types of ladies." Hi Hugh, although it sounds good on paper to have more authority and really look the part...that could get you in a whole lot of trouble or even dead here's why: If you pick the wrong place at the wrong time and you happen upon a police sting operation you could at the very least blow several months of diligent police work by convincing someone your a real officer of the law instead of some pathetic loser trying to pick up chicks in a bar. Now I'm not saying I'm some pathetic loser for trying this as I think in the right hands(mine) it could work pretty good but in the eyes of the law I want to be as unconvincing as possible that I'm somehow trying to impersonate an officer of the law. I want my attempt in the eyes of the law to seem so pathetic that if I was ever stupidly hauled in front of a judge by a moronic police officer the charges would not only be laughed out of court but that I would be able to sue and easily win an massive out of court settlement for unfounded malicious prosecution and live the easy life like all those lazy f**king retired handout seeking politicians !!!!!! :):):) Okay David Wygant this is where you need to step in as I am no legal expert nor do I consider what I just said to be in any way shape or form to be legal advice and therefore if you allow this completely novice ranting to remain on your blog and some f**king idiot misconstrues it and dies or whatever I absolve myself of any and all responsibility for what transpired and will allow and fully cooperate with all levels of the justice system so that the full force of the law to comes to rest on your shoulders and not mine. Grant

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Grant

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Hi Hugh, I didn't mean to scare you with all of that legal mumbo jumbo but I don't live in the USA and I don't want to be extradited there if the sh*t ever hits the fan so I'm just covering my *ss so that some guy named Bubbha doesn't end up covering my *ss in prison :):):) “There’s allllwways that “Cowboy” Deputy Sherriff that thinks he’s “the man” with the ladies.” Well that's somewhat the attitude that you have to take as you have to be a bit of a blowhard and a little full of yourself and a little corny to pull it off just right :):):) “They stop in the local coffee shop or convienent store and hit on the knock-out cashier babes and think that us regular working stiffs don’t have a chance” That's the exact attitude you need to take but at the same time you have to act like you actually know that your full of sh*t without having to come out and say it. “What can a guy do but have a stiff drink and a close shave after the cop pulls out his billy club and starts tapping you lightly with it. Not much grant. Admit it guy, you be going back to Walmart or Spencer gifts in the strip mall with the reciepts in the bag and a few bruises to boot !!” My thinking is that the best way to avoid a beating is to act like your a henpecked husband or that your girlfriend has henpecked you and that she has so controlled your life that this is the only fun you ever get. He will then feel sorry for you and try to give you enough confidence in yourself to finally tell her off and leave as he would never put up with that sh*t. Just my 2 cents worth :):):) Grant

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Hugh

Monday, April 1st, 2013

Maybe Grant Maybe... There's allllwways that "Cowboy" Deputy Sherriff that thinks he's "the man" with the ladies. Hey.. You see these stud officers, they're in every small town and large too like NYC. They stop in the local coffee shop or convienent store and hit on the knock-out cashier babes and think that us regular working stiffs don't have a chance .. HAHAHA... That's where the big DW knowlege kicks in. AND, that's also where this deputy comes in and makes a "BUST" . Ole' harmless Grant just trying some new pick-up routine, tying to be a little cute rounding up the lady sheriffs. Yeah. Yeah. See... this officer... if he just stopped and thought that No way in the world could a guy like Grant SERVICE ALL these female CADETS and that there may be some leftovers thrown his way...IF he played it a bit cool. You know what I mean Grant? Of course! But... hey some guys have those limiting beliefs that you alluded to earlier... What can a guy do but have a stiff drink and a close shave after the cop pulls out his billy club and starts tapping you lightly with it. Not much grant. Admit it guy, you be going back to Walmart or Spencer gifts in the strip mall with the reciepts in the bag and a few bruises to boot !!

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Hugh

Monday, April 1st, 2013

You're right Grant. Hey that cop might feel so sorry for the poor stiff that he invites him to one of those "boiler room" back door parties they host every so often, then turn his henpecked pal onto some of that wild midnite cowboy partying. He could even dip into that Walmart ( or Loblaws )bag and bust out those deputy badges for all the lady CADETS present. Don't get to needy OR greedy in the process Grant as these city cops have to unwind once in a blue too. LOL They could make you vanish faster than Burt Wonderstone over at Balleys in Vegas. What is done in Vegas STAYS in Vegas . HaHaHa. LOL !

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

“Hey that cop might feel so sorry for the poor stiff that he invites him to one of those “boiler room” back door parties they host every so often, then turn his henpecked pal onto some of that wild midnite cowboy partying. He could even dip into that Walmart (or Loblaws )bag and bust out those deputy badges for all the lady CADETS present” Okay this is more information than I needed to know Hugh and I know I could handle it if it was women that they were taking me to see but if it was a gay cop I'd be afraid of ending up like Marsellus Wallace(Pulp Fiction) or the gimp so I might just have to go for his gun :):):) Grant

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Hugh

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Grant, Need your perspective here... Where/what would YOU DO on a first date?? I realize that some of the busy women prefer the "Good Time Charley " types... you know.. the guys with one hand in their pocket fingering their nice fat wallets prepping to dish-out big $$ on a 1-date only-- see you later type women-- who say: I have a bunch of other guys waiting in line to go out with me attitude-- arrogance with no substance. What's up with this ???

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

“Hope you’re physically intact after that Ju-jitsu class. Can get rough if you do the sparring session too. “ Yes I am thanks for asking ! “Any cute Ju-jitsu babes in the class? Cool part is when you have a babe for a practice partner. Yes ?” No Hugh and that's probably a good thing as you don't want guys showing off in front of her as that could literally leave you in a world of pain :):):) Also one of my interests in Jujitsu is for me to be able to make my body the best it's ever been because I'm 50 and if I want a woman who's got it all and has a great body and takes care of it then I'd better be prepared to do the same otherwise I'm out of integrity with myself and you never want to be out of integrity with yourself for very long ! “Hey… those karate tournaments can be good places to take a date. Probably more enjoyable if a guy and his girl attended a gig by a different school say… Tae Kwon Do… which is more flashy and geared to competition and show. Been to a few of these and I really got into the FORMS or Katas. Some women are absolutely thrilling to behold as they do these Forms. One of these days, I’m going to join a softer school such as Tae-Chi or Wing-Chun. Almost need to be out in Cali to find a good Wing Chun school.” Never thought about that so if I'm ever at a tournament and I happen to remember your question and I have some time to kill I might just look around and see if I can figure that one out :) Grant :)

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Hugh

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Thanks for all your insight Grant ! Hope you're physically intact after that Ju-jitsu class. Can get rough if you do the sparring session too. Any cute Ju-jitsu babes in the class? Cool part is when you have a babe for a practice partner. Yes ? Hey... those karate tournaments can be good places to take a date. Probably more enjoyable if a guy and his girl attended a gig by a different school say... Tae Kwon Do... which is more flashy and geared to competition and show. Been to a few of these and I really got into the FORMS or Katas. Some women are absolutely thrilling to behold as they do these Forms. One of these days, I'm going to join a softer school such as Tae-Chi or Wing-Chun. Almost need to be out in Cali to find a good Wing Chun school. Salute brother !

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Come on Hugh, just get the coffee and go outside then. The important thing isn't where you are specifically but that you have a quiet place to feel her out without a lot of distractions. Denny's could work as long as it's quiet...even a bar that's a loud nut house at night could work during the day as long as it's quiet and you can chat but I'd refrain from drinking alcohol as it disturbs the sensitivities of the intuition and instincts. "Hey this way Grant.. if she pulls a no-show on you , you have the dolled up waitresses to console you. LOL !!" Wait 30 minutes and then leave. Don't try to chat up women there as a part of your mind will be distracted and you'll always be looking to see if hey is that women coming in her. So leave and start fresh somewhere else !!! Grant

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Hi Hugh, you also want a nice friendly exit too because she may not actually be a psycho she might just be having an off day or your instincts and intuition may be way off that day so you always want to be open to a second chance with her and if you treat her with respect when you pull the eject button and it turns out she's not that interested in you either since you treated her with respect she may have some hot friends to set you up with because you were a nice guy(nice guys don't have to ever finish last!!!) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hugh

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Well... ok, See what your meaning when you say she could turn out to vibe as bad news or something. Thus, you want to pick a place where you can push the EJECT button, exit softly from the wing (or any) position without getting uself trapped in a salted pretzel position-minus the mustard, and live to date another babe. makes perfect sence. Yeah... have a day off today. kicking back to indulge myself with a hot bath and a refreshing nap. Later to be decided. Have fun doing ju-jitsu bro...

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Hi Hugh, billiards could be okay but since that's pretty much a male dominated sport she will have a psychological advantage over you if there are lots of men around even if the advantage is only in her own mind ! “A bit ballsy for a 1st date to be sure, BUT can observe if she’s fun to be with and can share a soda ,if so inclined ,or go for the “Hard Mike’s” refreshments instead.” The second date is to see if she's fun so don't go rushing ahead as you need to establish to at least some degree on the first date that she isn't crazy even if she's hot hot hot and could f**k you all night long :):):) “Long time ago, a lady asked me attend a “White elephant” sale as a 1st date. It was pretty cool!” I like the white elephant sale idea especially is she suggests as it shows some of her personality and that she's inventive so then it's okay if she's a bit crazy because inventive people usually are or appear to be crazy because normal boring people don't get and appreciate them. “Don’t forget all the classic car shows that men love in the summer. If I was a single babe , I would be there!! Meet all sorts of interesting people and the ratio is like 10 guys to 1 woman.' Again a bad idea for the first date as that gives her a huge psychological advantage but hey you could take her to an amateur women's fashion show which gives you an advantage but maybe I shouldn't be telling you this as there's lots of time to play those power struggle games but the first priority is to discover if she's sane or not so stop getting ahead of yourself or you'll just end up Jedi 'mind f**king' yourself :):):):):):) Grant ps I'll have to go soon as I have a Jujistsu class in about 40 minutes :)

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Hugh

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Appreciate your input grant. I drink coffee too so... Often though, they're too packed and cannot find a place to sit. Often overlooked is a local diner, say a Denny's "type" or a small local restaurant that you're familiar with and that serves coffee and refreshments. You know ... like that place that the guy meets girl diner in the "BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING" ha! Hey this way Grant.. if she pulls a no-show on you , you have the dolled up waitresses to console you. LOL !!

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Hi Hugh, if you can't take her out for coffee because it's 'too passe' then you care too much about what other people think and you have too much attachment to the outcome. My advice stands and if you feel too weak around this woman that's bad for you even if she's a fantastic woman so I'd then say hey I've got a lot of work that just came up or whatever and say I'll call you and if it takes you a month to get your sh*t together and try again then hey that's what it takes and is much better than giving a horrible 1st impression !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grant

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Hugh

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Ok Grant. Thanks man. One thing though... ?? This 1st date coffee shop thing,,, Bit passe' and overused as venue for a 1st date-- don't you think ? How about a donut shop, ice cream parlor,or shake shop... Dive bar maybe ok too?? Anywhere where men/women shoot the sh-t. That is, try-hard planning & busting open the $$ that can lead to unneeded frustration/waist encountering all the "too" busy to have fun "good -time Charlie" babes and without really liking her. Hey.. I've made this mistake often too ! As you say... you can get a feel for her vibing and if these are kopesthetic with yours well ?? Plan a 2nd outing. I think so.

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Well Hugh, a first date should be a coffee date no matter how attractive the woman is !!! Find a nice quiet place where she is likely to feel safe, relaxed and open. I suggest letting her pick the place by saying which place do you like best and then she's likely to pick her favorite place and it's usually a place where she feels she has home field advantage. I know David says to pick the place and take her there but this isn't just a date it's a reconnaissance mission where your basic goal is to find out if she's mentally stable and I know that sounds harsh but it's the same advice I'd give a woman is to find out if he's mentally stable. How one finds that out is up to them but one thing to do is to be a bit clumsy and see if that really irritates her. Another thing is to say you feel nervous whether you do or you don't. If this irritates her that's not a good sign. Is she say's she not nervous at all that may indicate she drank alcohol before you met or took some kind of tranquilizer or smoked some weed to relax herself. I would approach with caution anyone who said they didn't feel nervous at all as it's normal to feel a bit nervous. Other than that have a nice chat and let your instincts and intuition feel her out and not your d*ck and you should be fine. If something doesn't feel right after about 25 minutes say well it was nice meeting you shake her hand and go. If things are going well and your instincts and intuitions tell you every thing is good but the conversation is dying then suggest getting out of there and then mutually decide where to head to if your not familiar with the area or if your favorite place is nearby take her there as you'll then have home field advantage...then just walk and talk and do whatever and then cut the date a bit short and say you have to go now. Then shake her hand(do not go in for the hug unless she starts it) and then just head off and think about the date. Ask yourself do I like her? Do our personalities clash? Do I think she would be a good mother if your looking to start a family? Now this may seem like your getting way ahead of yourself but it's not a life goal that your setting but just a soft impression about how you feel about her. When to call her if everything went well? Call her whenever you want but if you call really late or early in the day and you don't know her she might think your inconsiderate or clueless as why would anyone think they can call at anytime of the day or night as that suggests a person who thinks only of themselves and their needs first and always. So I'd say call between 10am and 9pm even if you end up getting her answering machine. Well I'll leave it at that as I think one should give some advice but then step back and let the person figure the rest out. Grant

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Hugh

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Grant,,, He'lde be a straight KOSHER man cop--in the SEXUAL sense pal. Not to worry bro-ham; just kick back and enjoy all so-called sinfull frills that come U way every now and then... Why bust u own balls with the rational? He's just turning you on guy... sharing with you man; okay "bonding" with you brother; hoping too to catch a drift every so often A ! See U around A ...

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

?????? :):):)

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

ps If she doesn't want to go for coffee approach with caution. If she wants to go to a place that has lots of distractions that may not a good sign as she then might be wanting to have you in a place where there are so many distractions that you can't feel her out and may be a deliberate deception ! If it were me I'd insist on a quiet place to talk and if you don't get that then I'd walk away !!!

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Hugh

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Thanks Grant. You're right about having one's antenna up if the date suggests a place to go early on in the dating game. Had a friend who went out with a women who suggested they go to a particular rock concert. Happened that the reason for her suggestion was because she was apparently a groupie and had a crush on the drummer. He was the dude who had a longer tongue than Gene Simmons of KISS. LOL. As far as going where there are a lot of distractions ? Well... ? I F--ked up ages ago with this smokin'hot fuel station babe. Hit on her for a long time. Knew she had a so-so boyfriend. She wanted me to take her to an amusement park. Awesome place too. We never went. For sure it would have been a Majic moment experience; maybe not the "romantic comedy" BUT darn close to it. It is what it is. What's done in Vegas stays.... you know the rest Grant !!!

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

:):):)

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Peter

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Very good advice from Grant here. You definitely do not want to date a psycho, or a woman that is going to cling to you like velcro. So approach with caution...

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

:):):)

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Hugh

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Thanks Grant. One guy previously suggested going out for a game or 2 of billiards. A bit ballsy for a 1st date to be sure, BUT can observe if she's fun to be with and can share a soda ,if so inclined ,or go for the "Hard Mike's" refreshments instead. I think you mentioned going to an art gallery, or crafts show. Also, are all sorts of festivals going on. My buddy took a date to an ice festival where local artists were carving out logos and sighs from blocks of ice for local businesses advertisement, then enjoy a cup of freshly made brewed hot chocolate together and chit-chat. Long time ago, a lady asked me attend a "White elephant" sale as a 1st date. It was pretty cool! Don't forget all the classic car shows that men love in the summer. If I was a single babe , I would be there!! Meet all sorts of interesting people and the ratio is like 10 guys to 1 woman. Hey ladies, if you're charming enough , he may invite you to fasten-the-seat-belts stump pulling ride. My opinion and thread here is a fun and inexpensive 1st date --see if you two "click".

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Hi Hugh, billiards could be okay but since that’s pretty much a male dominated sport she will have a psychological advantage over you if there are lots of men around even if the advantage is only in her own mind ! “A bit ballsy for a 1st date to be sure, BUT can observe if she’s fun to be with and can share a soda ,if so inclined ,or go for the “Hard Mike’s” refreshments instead.” The second date is to see if she’s fun so don’t go rushing ahead as you need to establish to at least some degree on the first date that she isn’t crazy even if she’s hot hot hot and could f**k you all night long :) :):) “Long time ago, a lady asked me attend a “White elephant” sale as a 1st date. It was pretty cool!” I like the white elephant sale idea especially is she suggests as it shows some of her personality and that she’s inventive so then it’s okay if she’s a bit crazy because inventive people usually are or appear to be crazy because normal boring people don’t get and appreciate them. “Don’t forget all the classic car shows that men love in the summer. If I was a single babe , I would be there!! Meet all sorts of interesting people and the ratio is like 10 guys to 1 woman.’ Again a bad idea for the first date as that gives her a huge psychological advantage but hey you could take her to an amateur women’s fashion show which gives you an advantage but maybe I shouldn’t be telling you this as there’s lots of time to play those power struggle games but the first priority is to discover if she’s sane or not so stop getting ahead of yourself or you’ll just end up Jedi ‘mind f**king’ yourself :) :):):):):) Grant ps I’ll have to go soon as I have a Jujistsu class in about 40 minutes :)

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Hi Hugh, I'm a little confused as your asking me to settle a disagreement but your not spelling out who this disagreement is with and what it's all about so am I missing something here? What I will say though is that on a date your job is to leave an impression with her than gets her to think about you a lot and want to see you again and her job is the exact opposite and now I'll leave you to figure out the rest for yourself :):):)

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Hugh

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Grant can you handle a little disagreement? I think so. Here goes... What I'm thinking is that if the woman is REALLY into you, you don't have to worry so much about the other guys around. Yeah , maybe they'll be a few dip-sh*ts who'll try to flirt with her. They're everywhere. She'll always blush when she looks your way signalling to you as if to say , "hey , it's not my fault", and if she's REAL, then she'll flake off on these dip-sh*ts ASAP. Playing along, she'll admire HOW YOU HANDLED THE "SITUATION" and get closer to you as a result. I believe this to be the truth as I see it. Also, maybe a guy could test a date's behavior around other men. If she,like you at the comedy club, can withstand flirting with the other men, thus showing some common courtesy for her partner, then maybe the man has the real-done-deal at hand. The deal closes itself. Forget the Ben Franklin and the Higher Authority closes.. No where to go but, put the John Handcock on the line Ok? ok ! P.S. Can't recollect details about the Ben Franklin & Higher Authority closes. Sorry.

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Grant

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

:):):)

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Hugh

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Have fun bro &&&&&&&&& Thanks for the tips !!!!!!!!!!!

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Hugh

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2013

Ok. What i was trying to say referred to taking the date to a place where there's more guys like that car show or playing pool. You had said that maybe these were not good places to go which i do agree to a certain extent but said that I would go anyway and take a few chances and watch her reactions. Say... if she started flirting heavily with a guy there, then that would elliminate her future chances with me. I'm sure you can see my point ... If not , that's fine . We can't think always the same.

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Grant

Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013

Okay I see this is a hypothetical situation but the problem with hypothetical situations is that there's a trillion of them and you can literally spend all of your time trying to figure all of them out but and the end of the day you'd be spending your entire life chasing shadows instead of enjoying your life whilst it happens(living in the moment) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grant

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Hugh

Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013

So true Grant, but what the Hey... Dude, I'll have my "brown belt" (with white stripe on it of course) in.... ?? Yes, yes, in .... ?? "The everyday man's guide to self- defense in the "JUNGLE" world of dating" !! Just kidding man... Was cool blogging with you & take a chance bro! What's done on DW's blog stays on Dw's... Later man!

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Grant

Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013

"Was cool blogging with you & take a chance bro! What's done on DW's blog stays on Dw's... Later man!" Hi Hugh, I'm glad that my insane rantings were of benefit to you and that you find a nice(or not so nice girl, depending what your into :):):) ) and don't end up on the wrong side of the law trying to do it because if your in jail the best I can do is give you $20 towards your bail because you brought this on yourself and/or try and help you find a good lawyer !!! :):):) Grant

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Grant

Thursday, April 4th, 2013

Hi Hugh, finally getting back to you as I ended up talking to my friend until 4am. “Hey... I'll take the Canadian bills over the U.S. bills these days brother . Their duty-free too you know . Ha !” I agree, what's with that weird money that you have? :):):) “Don't forget to invite Mel to all the Greektown pastry shops.” I like Melissa but I don't want to have the responsibility for young children so I hope she finds a great guy !!! “Just busting u balls a little. Not to worry Grant...” It's all good !!! As always Grant, enjoy and have fun A ? :):):) “From your true friend... Hugh” OMG you haven't turned gay on me Hugh have you? :):):):) Bye for now true friend :) Grant

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Hugh

Wednesday, April 3rd, 2013

Will do Grand... !!! Hey... I'll take the Canadian bills over the U.S. bills these days brother . Their duty-free too you know . Ha ! Just go under the Tunnel from D-triot pal. I'm sure you would try to hop on The People Mover subway... Don't forget to invite Mel to all the Greektown pastry shops. All the nuts those old fashioned Greeks use in their pastries will put some LEAD in your pencil too and your pocket book will remain thick,juicy, and happy pal. Just busting u balls a little. Not to worry Grant... As always Grant, enjoy and have fun A ? From your true friend... Hugh

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Hugh

Thursday, April 4th, 2013

I'm still a Kosher dood man. Nah, I'm not into gay bashing, either. Couple of instances where gay guys hit on me while vacationing in Florida. Not Key West though. Actually, I love Key West ( the 2 by 4 Island). Duvall Street has all the cool little dive bars and cafe's that are open until 4AM. Snorkling in the ocean is fun. Then there's that sunken treasure museum.. ah... Mel Fischer Museum I think? Mention this to u blog buddy Hans. He might be interested. Anyway, remember being invited to a party in Key West by some people I met at a club. I went. Got the impression that it was a bi-sexual & gay party, BUT the people were SUPER cool and friendly and didn't force anything on me. I wss happy that I went. Haven't returned to Florida since the late 90's. Wonder if much has changed there ? Planning to go there again soon. Hot California babes are often touted, but tell you what Grant... The Beach Boys needed to have dedicated some songs to Florida babes. My opinion is that the Florida babes are the best bro !!! Ok man , I've got some things to finish on my Honey Poop Sheet so... Be talking to you Grant !

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Hugh

Thursday, April 4th, 2013

Talking AKA a "honey do list", but since I don't have a wife ? And since the things I had written down today were crappy chores ? Thot the description was fitting. Concerning TO- do lists... did you hear David's recent blog about living in the NOW? Thought proving for me. I'm the guy who insists on a few yearly goals for keep me in balance and for looking back at years end with a sense of accomplishment. I guess the reason is that I saw too many friends in the past wipe out and drift day to day and year to year never advancing themselves . Many hard-core PUA's live only to go out with women. David said that in his early days he felt like a part-time phone number collector & telemarketer. Then, he must have set goals-- going into business for himself then being a successful dating coach etc. I don't believe in living off of a calender though. Too many goals can be counter productive as not having any goals. It's good to have some present mindfulness too as this JERKS one out of the hypnotic state of thinking too heavily about the past and future. What do you think Grant ?

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Hugh

Thursday, April 4th, 2013

Grant... after listening to coach DW's Presence of mind blog today... Thot, I had an impulse that said to me... " some white noise has to be"... To eliminate it all... Might cause my brain to stall... Good to think about my future... Good to think about my past... What the hey... life's not meant to last.. Alright guy, hitting the sack instead of my endeavoring to be a hack... Syanara my friend ..

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Grant

Thursday, April 4th, 2013

Hi Hugh, if your taking about: Goals: What Being Present Really Means (Podcast) I'd say remember that on any given day that David might be white noise and you instead of listening to him or checking his blog need to be doing something else instead so listen to those little impulses instead of ignoring them !!! Grant

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Grant

Thursday, April 4th, 2013

“Nah, I'm not into gay bashing, either.” Hi Hugh, some of this political correctness is valid but I don't want to have to completely change who I am just because I'm around someone who is gay or lesbian(gl). My thinking is hey why don't I just fine tune my humor for the audience that's in front of me. You'll see a comedian make jest of the different races but why should we leave gl's out of the picture? Do you NOT think that they feel offended when you leave them out of humor because of who they are? Anyways I've ranted enough :) “Couple of instances where gay guys hit on me while vacationing in Florida.” I've never had a gay man hit on me and I've kind of developed a complex about it where I'm thinking like wtf am I just not attractive enough? :):):) Had a funny incident happen where I was talking with a guy friend of mine and a mutual women friend and we just got open an honest about relationships and she made the stereotypical comment of “men think with there dicks” so I came back with “do women think with their vagina's” and she all like "what???" hahahaha !!! So I clearly repeated it and watched her squirm much to my amusement and I later let her off the hook but I bet she'll never try something like that on me again. Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! “Ok man , I've got some things to finish on my Honey Poop Sheet so...” OMG do I even want to know what a Honey Poop Sheet is you sick pervert :):):):) Grant

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Hugh

Thursday, April 4th, 2013

Grant ... On David's blog, see that book that young man is holding in his hand? Must have been an influential factor in his life---assuming that this is a somewhat dated and earlier photo of the young man. Question : Aside from "The Naked" book , what book has recently turned some of your lights on man. No, not porno related stuff either my man. A really interesting book that I just couldn't lay down was, " LIFE IS A GAME OF POKER" by Jim "Cowboy" Childers. He lives on the West Coast. Bought the book at a VEGAS gaming bookshop 12 years ago and had just read it last month. I'm not a heavy gambler with the attendant addictions . Still, the book is VERY good. Grant, ever hear/read this book ?

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Hugh

Thursday, April 4th, 2013

Wussup Grant? Your question about women thinking with...? Good question. Blase' answer : You have me stumped bro. Just don't know. Hey... Is that rumor true about the owner of Playboy Magazine, the guy that has those lavish parties in that mansion near Sunset Strip Blvd. in Cali ?? Ever been there my friend ?

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