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Thank was amazing David. Basically guys do not give up just because she has a boyfriend right there and THEN. Just enjoy whatever you are thrown. You don't always need something from someone. Just a good conversation maybe. Nice work David!
I think David's whole point is that there is NO wasted interaction - being as social as you can with everyone is the way to go. Just enjoy the moment for what it is.
And, even if you find out the person your talking to has a boyfriend, by showing interest in them and finding out about them, that positive energy will make other people want to talk to you and they will feel attracted to you!
My thought is that asking for her number when she has a boyfriend might look kind of sleazy. Also, worrying about whether you see her again or not implies that she is one of the few women with whom you have chemistry.
I'm interested to meet the kind of woman who carries such a large knife strapped to her thigh while she's wearing lingerie.
Also, I couldn't help but think about the episode of Big Bang Theory where Penny defends wearing a certain shirt because it's paid for itself in free drinks. If we're dating like stock brokers, there are certainly a lot of women with large amounts of money tied up in promiscuity futures.
Great video! I think meeting women on my travels is a bit different, but could also work in the same way at times depending upon the situation. When traveling, most people whom you encounter, you don't see again. Would that be a wasted interaction if you talked to them too? I don't think so. It's fun connecting with people whether you see them again or not!
The only thing I seek right now is to flood my body with presence. With this presence I can have happiness in all the states of mind: success, rejection or isolation. I manage anxiety so well when present that I don't feel approach anxiety. When I started to do this presence thing, I witnessed the fact that rejection wasn't rejection. It was a temporary hurt that evaporated really quickly. Some of these perceived rejections have turned into relationships. So there you have it: rejection isn't rejection.
However, I do need to create my own Woman-Stock-Exchange. I don't follow up with most of my first encounters because of some fears which I'm not able to explain to in this blog. I may have latent abandonment issues that I am only coming to grips with. Regardless of my modest successes this issue holds me back in such a bad way and colors every perspective I have of any relationship.
I'm sitting in a big chain bookstore cafe, and at the table diagonal from me is one of the most beautiful women I have ever laid eyes on in my lifetime. Sexy dress (allmost looks like a nightgown), perfect body, long beautiful hair, and a perfect, hourglass shape. The only thing wrong with her is the 2 ton diamond ring on her left hand. OMG!!! I have never seen a freakin' diamond that big!.
She's got piles of papers on her table, and is working hard on something.
I have NEVER seen sexier legs in my LIFE.
DAMN YOU BIG FREAKIN' DIAMOND RING!
lol.
Ok, this thread has been pretty dead anyway, so I wanna ask a question..
I don't like messing with married women, so I didn't open a conversation with the stunningly beautiful married woman from the bookstore, (plus, I was a little intimidated, I admit it, she was that "supermodel" gorgeous. I mean she actually looked like she just jumped off the pages of a Victoria's Secret catalogue, and I'm not exaggerating. ) but if I was going to, what could I have possibly opened with?
She was sitting at a table, buried in some kind of paperwork, wearing a silky tight, lacy dress ,( seriously, it kinda looked like a nightgown.) not eating or drinking anything (so how's the tuna is out, haha).
I'm thinking something along the lines of "hey, you look entirely too busy over there." ... Maybe " hey, you look busy, what are you so busy working on? " (too nosy?)
Besides, I can't help but wonder, what the HELL is a MARRIED woman doing in a bookstore cafe, alone, on a Saturday night, by herself, looking as sexy as that? I mean, she can obviously work on whatever she was doing at home. Plus, all made up,and dressed to kill? Maybe her rich husband was out of town, and she was looking for some side action??
Maybe I SHOULD have said something? Hmmm..
You just answered your own question by coming up with at least two talking points:
"OMG i have never seen a freakin' diamond that big in my life. i bet it weighs two tons!"
"I can't help but wonder: what's a MARRIED woman like you doing in a bookstore cafe, alone, on a Saturday night, wearing a night gown? can't you do that work at home?"
The first one would be a good opener because it defuses your talking-to-a-married-woman tension and makes it crystal clear that you're just talking to her for the sake of talking to her.
On a related note: I was out with a friend of mine who is good with the ladies, and I told him I heard some pickup artist types wear a ring just to help them meet women. We were pontificating on how that could possibly make any sense at all, and he had the winning theory: if you are wearing a ring and chatting with a woman, she lets her guard down because she thinks you're just chatting with her and being friendly, not hitting on her. Just a theory though - i'm new to this and am still mostly gathering thoughts + observations at this point.
This kinda goes with what the video was about.
You have the mindset that if you had talked to her, that you were "messing with a married woman". When really, you're not "messing" with her at all, you're just trying to make conversation and getting to know her. If you're going with typical PUA stuff and ARE trying to pick up up, then yes, you're messing with a married woman...But you ain't! You're just genuinely interested in her, or at least that's what you should be.
If she has a boyfriend/married, oh well...
You never know what the future holds though. She might end that relationship. Or she may have some hot single friends ( hot women travel in packs dude!). This is what it is to "diversify your portfolio" with women.
You don't just put everything into one girl and hoping she's your golden ticket. You plant seeds a little all over the place and see which one will reward you.
Whatever happened to that girl at the bar you talked about a couple weeks back? You ever see her again?
As far as openers go, the one about "what's got you working so late on a saturday night?" would have been perfect since it would have easily permitted to dive deeper and build a connection.
John,
Have you learned anything from David? lol :) She was working on something, right? You could bust on her, asking her why does one have to work so hard on the weekend...lol Or you can just ask what she is working on and listen to what she says and then you have a conversation with her. She can then explain why she is sitting in a bookstore doing work by herself.
She most likely think your cool for talking to her, because most guys would be afraid to say something to her because she is so good looking and married.
So the next super model you run into, use an observation in that moment to talk to her!
Lol,, that was pretty much what I said above. "you look entirely too busy over there " is pretty much the same thing.
You know, I've been thinking... I really don't want a girl that perfect looking. I could tell by the size of that freakin' diamond, she is probably pretty high maint. I'm not looking for supermodel looks anyway.
Seriously though, I used to work in a downtown night club, and I've been about everywhere.. I think that was easily the most beautiful woman I've ever actually seen in person... No kidding.
Btw,, I was just looking for opener suggestions that might be better than what I've come up with. I'm not very good with the observations.
(and yes, I know, there is no " perfect " thing to say... But I don't want to say something STOOPID... lol.)
I still don't agree with this blog. Its easy to go days/weeks maybe months talking to people but if without trying to "close" the person then you're network nor social life isnt improving. In this big of a world we live in, you will rarely ever see the same people again.
Unless someone can truly explain this porfolio mindset and how effective is then fine, but until then I disagree
Well if you're interested in the person, and she's single. Then, yes, go for the close. If she's not single, then don't run away just because she's not on the market. THAT's when you try and have the portfolio mindset. That and when you're talking to people whom you're simply not attracted to.
The point of this blog isn't "talk to people and build a connection and don't try to close". You should definitely try to close on SINGLE women. The point of the blog is that even if she's NOT single, you should still build a connection.
Even if the odds are 1 in a million. There's still that 1 chance that you will see her again. So why not put the odds in your favor if that one shot comes to you?
John,
How did the conversation go after you opened her up? The openers are not the most important, it's the conversation that proceeds afterwords. Another thing you could have talked to her about was the ring on her finger by asking when the big day was and later on ask if she had any single friends attending that you could meet...lol...Women love to play cupid...lol
Don't be so sure about the "high maint" thing just because she has a big rock on her finger. A weather gal from Southern Florida who I used to chat with on twitter before I went down there or when I was there and she would reply...
She also had a big rock on her finger one year and got married that same year. She also got divorced in less than a year...lol Now she is with another guy and the last time I seen her, she had on a smaller rock on her finger. So don't always assume bigger rocks mean that, it just might mean the confidence the guy has that she is attracted to.
What?
There was no conversation. I was just wondering what I could have opened up with given the situation. (if she didn't have the big rock on her finger.) I was looking for suggestions given the observations I gave, without coming across as too nosey.
I wasn't going to pick her up. She was MILES out of my league,,, not based on looks, but the size of that rock. She ain't hookin' up with no truck drivers, and I guarantee her friends aren't either. It's no big deal, there are plenty of attractive women who will.
What would saying something that was "too nosey" have done?
"she ain't hooking up with no truck driver" How do you know?
"and I guarantee her friends aren't either"
again, how do you know?
You're assuming everything, while not even trying to verify if it's true or not.
maybe she cares about material things, maybe she doesn't. Maybe she doesn't care how much money the guy she dates has, maybe she does. Maybe her friends are all gold diggers, or maybe they're not. But you'll never know since you assumed and didn't find out for yourself. She might have had a personality as beautiful as her looks, but you'll never know.
The observations you did were good ones and you even had an opener. You just made up an excuse in your head when you saw the ring to give you a reason not to go talk to her and tell us on the blog about why you couldn't.
If you switch your mindset from trying to find a date, to just connecting with women and not caring about the outcome. I think you'd be approaching much more often. Since you seem to know how to spot openers. You just make excuses afterwards on why you shouldn't go.
John I wish I was there. Not just because I really can't figure out an opener since I wasn't there but for the fact that I would have hit on that. :-)
Since she's obviously very intimidating by her model looks alone the last thing I would have done was a cocky one-liner to try and strike a conversation. Those lines just assume the stranger-girl is not as serious as she passes herself to be. She obviously must love what she is doing since whatever it is it gives her a tremendous rewards such as a big freaking diamond. Asking her about her passion in a cocky manner is sometimes criticizing. You know what John, how about just get to know her. Tell her those things you just wrote above: Its a Saturday night, she's obviously worldly and loves luxury (trophy wives are worldly), and she has a pile of papers in front of her -- so what's up? I think that is more genuine and from the heart. It's something I learned about my own cocky nature. I don't need to be cocky all the time!
My rule of thumb is that if my anxiety is way up then start from the heart. Cockiness is by nature criticism and has a way of removing me from the present moment. It fails me sometimes. Also if you fail, learn to forgive the past and start being comfortable in your own skin immediately after.
Manny, you say you would "open" with just "getting to know her?"
That doesn't make any sense.
You have to say "something" after HI. You need to start a conversation with her before getting to know her.
Oh, and "I would have hit on that."
Hahahaha,, I would've paid money to see that.
Thanks David for the (once again) amazing information and motivation.
I've got a question about this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W-o9_Omr5A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
What's the best way to act when you face this moment?
Thank you in advance.
@davidwygant ,,, PLEASE tell me you're going to Mystery's upcoming "ULTIMATE PICK UP ARTIST CONVENTION."
SOMEBODY has to be there with some sense..
Lol.
John,
You could of said "hey you look really focused, Do you have a deadline?"
Even though she was married, she would have been good practice. She would of still have enjoyed the interaction though regardless.
"She would of still have enjoyed the interaction though regardless."
*sigh*
Not if she actually has a deadline.
Guys, come on. No wonder some of you have trouble talking to women. You know how David says to actually *observe* what the woman is doing?
Sometimes if we're really busy with something, we don't want to talk to you. You have to look and see.
After all, that's what we do with you.
I'll give John credit, he did open her up while most guys wouldn't have gone that far...But I agree with JR, he should not focus so much on dating every woman he talks to. Rather connecting with them, that beautiful gal may have become friends with him where he could have learned a lot more about the person she is. She might have had some single friends too that he could have connected with or she might get a divorce later on down the road, you never know. But what I do know, she would have certainly enjoy a deeper conversation with him!
Mike, I KEEP SAYING.. I DIDN'T open her up.
I didn't want to open her up. I generally don't mess with married women.
I was asking what I could have opened her up with HAD I WANTED TO.
She was married anyway,, nothing lost.
I listened... coming from the perspective of the stock rather than the broker... Once we achieve adulthood what significance is a boyfriend to creating a connection with a lady. A boyfriend simply is dating which can easily be changed, unlike marriage or even those enfianced, so continue rather than moving on if she doesn't move fast enough. Conspicuous consumption- you mention we are too driven by it and men should have a portfolio or veritable cornucopia of women so the gal who is unavailable is inconsequential...truly, by moving on to the next "item" in your portfolio is by definition conspicuous consumption...always a Miss Right Now never waiting for Miss Right....A different view.
Wow I don't think you got the message...
It's not about having tons and tons of women to choose from. It's about building connections with people now, for the future.
the relation to the stock market metaphor is: invest in a stock now, and it might bring in profits later.
It not even about simply dating, even in business life. If you connect with someone, not knowing that they're the CEO of such and such company, then without you knowing, you apply for that company and, HEY look at that, it's my buddy that I met a week ago! Aren't you glad you connected with that person now?
It's not about "Miss Right Now" at all...It's more like "Miss MAYBE in the future"...
This happened this past July. While reading and enjoying my time in the bookstore i sat next to a blonde gal doing the same. I noticed the ring and figured Hey no big deal i don't have to perform magic. Turned out she was visiting from Canada and going through a divorce from a attorney guy of 14yrs married. I said you mentioned Calgary....turned out we both had a mutual friend. A gal i had worked with 14yrs ago! From there we had Green Lights flashing & enough time for lunch before her flight back home. Had I remained silent in the bookstore I would have never known.
My realization. There may be no such thing as a waste of time.
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