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Nice is so overrated. I’d prefer brutally honest breakthrough to a “nice” rut any damn day of the week. If you’re the same way, then you've come to the right place.
What I read is this the parents of the 13 year old boy is considering a paternal testing since several other guys have stepped up to the plate and said they have had sex with this girl also. If I had a son and some girl said she was having my Grandchild she had better be ready to take a paternal test for I believe in protecting my son. Also if she is lying she better find the right father that is all I can say for this. Also if one of my daughters were unwed and came to me and said I am pregnant at the age of 15 years and went to the parents of the boy and they wanted a paternal testing I feel they have a right as well. But things happen and since I raised girls it is kind of hard to say what I would do. But I wonder what a 15 year old girl would be doing messing around with a boy that young that could not even support his dog right now. I guess she is hoping the parents will pay her child support but they were not the ones who gave birth to this individual. A child raising a child.
Oh I can tell you some tells I have heard awhile back like one woman that claimed this man was the child's father and the mother of the man said I want a paternal test. When they went to court she had been with 5 other men. Now when I heard this I said I wonder if she is going to do a paternal test on every man in Tennessee.
The 13-year old boy doesn't even look like he even went through puberty. The girl couldn't find someone older than her? I guess she wants to mate as early as possible for the boy. I feel pity for those two teenagers.
Yeah, I'll e-mail the kid and ask him how to hook up with a 14 yr old girl. lol
Forget I said that. That's just creepy!
Twenty and below is my cut-off age. My requirement is 21 and up.
But this does remind me a little of some of those teachers like that one blonde in TN a couple years ago who was doing it with 14-15 yr old boys. She wasn't a teenager herself, but was about 24-25.
But like Daniel says, I feel sorry for them both.
Tony & DTC
I agree with both of you I have no remorse for a child molester. Doing boys that young makes me sickier than a dog. I want a man to be under the bedsheets with I had rather go down on Fourth Avenue in Nashville and hook up with a male prostitute. Thank God I raised girls for if either one did that I would help put them under the jail. And both of them know it.
Marina
You know as a mother you have to protect your sons from women that come into their lives and say hey I am having your grandbaby. Better get that paternal test to find out. Sweetheart I raised girls.
Marina
Who knows they may end up on the Montel Show just watch your local channel if they don't blacken our television screens come June of this year. When that happens if I can not watch my DVD movies on it I am taking that piece of junk and giving it to Bethesda in Ashland City. And when Direct TV calls me asking me about satellite I was say to them you better provide me free of charge a brand new 42inch LCD TV of my choosing.
Sandra
My son just turned 14, but at 13 he was 6'1" and in full puberty and looks as if he is 17 yikes..I am very lucky he is not a wise guy otherwise it would him in the news..Yes I talk about sex protection with him and show him stories like these and the one about those insane girl friends that all decided to get pregnant at the same time. That story is really weird, having sex with a homeless guy so you can get pregnant with your friends. As a parent you just can't assume they know what is going on and leave them to them selves to find out.
Marina
I agree with you on teaching your son about those things. For it will help him when he has to step out in this world alone. But be there to support him.
I say, where the fuck are these kids parents and why hasn't CPS intervened in what seems to be parental neglect, particularly in the case of the 12 year old boy. My other guess is the girl may have a history of abuse (althoguh hard to tell) based on her age, partner choices and promiscuity. The kids and grandkid probably all need new parents.
I smell a fortune teller in her that has been looking in a crystal ball and has the eyes of God and knows people as well as Lord Jesus. Hey guys lets get him to take us to Las Vegas if we can find him.
wow.
I thought it was bad enough having a dad that acts like a 13 y old. I think I found my cosmic polar opposite twin.
Thank you to everyone for reading and sharing with me last night. It was a breakthrough and it turned out to be a suprisingly emotional night for me.
Take care,
Mike
Marina,
The only sex education I got was in school and at camp and since I was "the artistic outcast" it obviously didn't go well for me.
My dad caught me "exploring" myself when I was 13, yelled at me and made me feel ashamed and then never talked to me about sex again until I was 21, and then he only did it for humor and for jokes. My mom always thought it should be his job.
Guess the schools didn't teach me enough. Or more realistically, sex education needs to be taken seriously and it needs to come from the parents as well as a source like the classroom. If one or the other fails, I think there needs to be a place people can turn to for advice when their system of information fails them.
Mike
A Movie
Back in the days of old people were to be made aware of that masturbation was a sin. But if you think about it people do it anyway especially when they are by themselves and don't have anyone there to satisfy them. I myself know where my sensual spots are and now the person that I am with I will teach them and let them in on the secrets. I only raised girls. Marina she has boys and could possibly help you.
Mike,
I am just brought up with sex not being taboo, it's the most natural thing in the world. I am telling my son it's normal but that he has to wash his hands afterwards. You have to listen to kids when they get the urge you have to talk to them. Tell them with the right person especially the first time it's amazing. Despite being so open towards and being fully developed at 11 I still did not have sex until I was 18.
back when our parents and in your case mike grandparents were teens they had to protect their girls for their was no such thing as birth control and when a girl got pregnant the family was ashamed of her. That is why they had chaperones back in their day for they knew once the parents were out of sight then those two would be up to having sex. but there is one thing my dad told me about him and mom if they wanted each other bad enough they would find a way to be together. I was raised with a brother until his death at the age of 25 years old. Don't feel lonely he died a virgin. Just when you have your first sex be sure that you wear a condemn and remember this a woman could hide what she has and a man can not. I do realize that things happen on a date that is what I tell my daughters it is called the heat of the moment. But be prepared if she comes up pregnant. You are a grown young man now and there are going to be times that certain things happen. Just be prepared for the unexpected. And always get a paternal test if you are not sure the child is yours.
Marina takes home the prize for over commenting.
And the 13 yr old kid? Sounds like trailer trash to me. I'm sure he's got younger buddies with babies older than their fathers. ha ha
I live in the UK so have been aware of this story for some time. It is very shocking, but considering the amount of money the family is being paid for this story its no surprise people are claiming to be the father.
I appreciate the comments but this is one of the issues I have with telling people my secret. I can blog for months and no one says anything about my conduct and the day after I make my big reveal, Sandra and Marina automatically assume that I am naive. I'm actually quite intelligent and I know you don't mean anything by your comments, but sorry, duh... Obviously I don't want to have to care for a kid. I don't even want kids. Just treat me like you treated me before, that's all I ask. People's perceptions of me always instantly change as soon as I tell them I have no experience.
It's based around fear. My dad is my hero but he dropped the ball on teaching me about sex. I didn't do much to help myself and three years ago I started to change. End of story. I'm not looking for an amazing time.
All it feels like to me is that its like finally taking the driver's exam after studying for years. The problem is, I don't have a friend close enough to me that I can ask to borrow the car for the purpose of taking the test.
That's all. And I like being alone. So...
Hey Guys
Did this turn into a boys club for men only or what. What is it all about me and the guy talk that goes only between guys not for women to hear. Hey I am well knowledged in that department. Men talk a different lingo when they are around the woman they care about. Such as:
Friend: Hey how are you and your girlfriend?
Guy: Well we are doing ok.
Friend: When is the wedding?
Guy: We are seeing each other and she wants me to marry her. But I don't know if I want to go that far.
Then the guys speak a different lingo when they are around the women folk.
Let see:
10 Mistakes Women Make With Men
1. Betting your love life on his potential
2. Assuming You Get the Man and their psychology
3. Pretending to be something for a man
4. Sharing How you feel too early with him
5. Misreading The Important Signs that men send
6. Relying on your natural ability to judge a man's character
Women communicate with hints, body language, sarcasm, and flirting when they're getting to know the man. Men are different: men generally communicate with sarcasm, humor, cockiness, and other indirect displays of status.
7. Expecting A Relationship To Make You Happy
Nothing says run! to a man faster than hearing or sensing that a woman immediately wants him to take care of her.
8. Convince Him to Like or Love You
9. Not knowing what to do in each type of situation
A man has a clear idea of what he wants from a woman and I don't mean just sex. If a man is out on a date with a woman he already has an idea of wants he wants from you.
10. Not Getting Help
On this blog I have ran into more immature men than mature men.
Sex and Commitment Thinking In Time Frames
Men have a big SECRET: and if a woman knows that secret it would make a man ten times more likely to want a long term relationship with her, but men don't want you to know about it.
IF A MAN SEES A WOMAN AS A LOVER AND MAYBE SOMETHING MORE LONG TERM, HE WILL BE OK WITH WAITING FOR THINGS LIKE SEX! OH WHAT DID I SAY A MAN WILL WAIT ON SEX. I did not pick this up out of my head but I learned this from another guy. Make a man wait for sex, nearly every man even players have a common theme among all women they've dated seriously. The woman made sure that things moved slowly and that sex did not come before deeper levels of attraction and intimacy were built. In terms, this usually meant a minimum of one to several months before they were more practically intimate.
Read and weep you immature men I want to talk to mature men email when you reached maturity in your mind.
A mature man knows what he wants in life and what kind of woman he is willing to take on a man knows who is relationship material or not.
I am sure David knows men in professions that know what women are about. I had rather listen to a man like David for he is the only mature man on this blog.
An Immature man is one who plays too much with a woman's heart.
Now what kind of guy are you unavailable or available when it comes to dating women. Let me tell we can sense that when it comes to an immature man.
Oh Guys
One more thing b 4 I go to sleep! These mature guys David knows does not run to him and say David help me find the woman of my dreams no they already have the woman of their dreams. Yes we all have a person we want to fulfill our lives but that is only in their dreams. One thing I will not allow myself to get into is the pink lense effect is when the woman makes excuses for the guy she is interested in. David has his and I have mine where is yours. You yourself have to decide:
1. What kind of woman do I want?
2. What kind of personality do I want her to have? This helps.
3. Go out and see what the world is about and study women not sitting in front of your computer and putting down women like myself and Marina for just trying to help you out.
4. Ask David get a magic wand and find me a genie lamp help me to find this perfect dream?
5. Am I an unavailable guy or available guy when I am with this girl.
6. Don't try to figure me out in your stooge blogs for you don't know my background and you sure the hell don't know me.
7. The day you put a ring on my finger and take care of me by paying my bills then you have some say in my life.
8. No one knows me better than our Lord Jesus the day you can go to the graveyard and say dead rise and not make a fool out of yourself. Then maybe I will give it some thought.
9. Before you set judgment on someone be justifiable of yourself before you are justifiable of others.
I guess you guys like to hear a broken record have you read in these blogs and seen it in the podcast that David is telling you get out and find yours. Ok stay immature men and see how many women you can pick up. For sitting in front of my computer all day is not going to pay my bills and help me to seek and find out more about the special guy in my life.
Mike
Either you are claiming one of the two things about me which one:
Naive
1. extremely simple and trusting: having or showing an excessively simple and trusting view of the world and human nature, often as a result of youth and inexperience
2. not shrewd or sophisticated: showing a lack of sophistication and subtlety or of critical judgment and analysis
a politically naive statement
It seems as though you are still green behind the ears I don't want to have to raise momma's little boy all over again get your life in order then you will have the mature mind you need.
Mac
Or simply seeking child support from his parents. I believe there should be a paternal test done to find out if that child is his. I am sure his mom knows if that baby is apart of the family.
My Answers To The Quiz
10 Mistakes Women Make With Men
1. Betting Your Love Life On His Potential
That is when the woman is seeking validation and the approval of a man she wants to be with. By asking him how he feels about their relationship.
2. Assuming You Get the man and their physicology
Trying to figure the guy out and asking people like David why is he saying this and doing that? If you don't know the guy you are with there was a song years if you don't know me by now you will never never know me. Then there is something wrong why so negative does he not show you he loves you in certain ways.
3. Pretending Your Are Something For A Man
Being someone you are not to please this guy and want him to stay with you.
4. Sharing with him too early about your feelings for him.
Hey this is a big big no no when you do this then out of dodge in car and the tires meet the highway.
5. Misreading the signs that men give
This happens to me sometimes men can give off signals that women don't understand but they keep going on with the same guy. This is what I call the I want him back syndrome. Sometimes it works with the guy as well.
6. Relying On Your Own Natural Ability to figure out men
Men don't think about like women.
7. Convince him to like or love you.
Playing the convincer and doing things to make him stay with you.
8. Not knowing what to do in each situation
Confusion comes in and so do the thoughts.
9. Expecting a relationship to make you happy
Relying on the person for your own happiness and not seeking the truths within yourself as a woman or man.
Reality hurts and stinks when you have to face them each and everyday of our lives. Face it life will go on no matter what.
Sandra,
Fuck you. I never asked you for advice, I was sharing on this site. I didn't call you naive. I didn't ask you to fucking raise me. I shared about my dad and you replied that I just need to learn how to put on a condom and not get a girl pregnant. Leave me out of your comments, you've been a pain in the ass since I started commenting on this site. Go back to rambling on about God and how terrible it is working at Wal-Mart.
Marina,
Sorry, didn't mean to offend you. This is how it works for me right now and I am trying to change that. I tell someone, and then I panic that they don't understand me, which is totally fair since there are very few people who are doing what I am doing, both in spirit and in body. I am trying to figure out something very deep inside of me and I have been doing it for a while and I wasn't even looking for a dating coach when I found David. That happened for other reasons but I thought I'd try things out here. I didn't want to tell anyone, I never do. I have lost friends over it and I have found out people's try colors by telling them.
David,
You need to do a blog about why it is that men feel the need to be validated through the act of sex and why women feel the need to be validated by the strength and duration of their relationships.
Sandra,
I'm going to go ahead and apologize before you get a chance to rant for the next fifty posts. I'm not mad at you, but you proved my point about my insecurity.
I think you have a tendency to speak your mind freely and I respect that. But, maybe in the future, before you rifle off a response, wait a half hour and read the post again to see if your opinion of it has changed. I am trying to work through a wall, and you walk in and say I'm just a momma's boy. That is insulting and I didn't do anything to provoke that. If you read what I posted, you would see that I was calling myself naive not you.
I'm not retracting the God comment. Everyone has a spiritual center, and it evolved with the species. I think a lot of liberal people take offence to the undue disrespect Christians and others of deep programmed faiths give to the world when they shoulder their beliefs as weapons. Don't preach. Live it. That's what Jesus did. And when people asked him his opinion he gave it, but he never went out of his way to make you see the world the way he saw it. That's part of the message.
Mike
Mike
My dad and I had a talked awhile back and I agree with him on one thing. There are guys who have nothing better to do then to sit there in front of a computer and talk to women where ever they want. Who knows he could be talking to someone else right now. Also my dad said to me you can meet some guy in your neighborhood. But my dad and I have one thing in common and like I told my oldest I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THOSE GUYS ON THAT COMPUTER ALL THEY HAVE BETTER TO DO IS MAKE COMMENTS TO SOMEONE THEY DONT EVEN KNOW AND MAKE TROUBLE FOR THE PERSON AND CAUSE TROUBLE IN ONES FAMILY. FUCK YOU TOO AND I WOULD NOT GIVE YOU THE PLEASURE....Then we decided that if they are not coming down the road to meet one of us loaded to hunt bear we are not going to worry about them.
My dad said also that they may be sitting in a wheelchair and just doing nothing but talking to women on the computer and living with mom and dad when they should be looking for a job. If they can not support themselves how in the hell are they going to support you. See my dad is a mature man. As long as you are not hunting me up and wanting to know where I live I am not going to worry about you.
And if you want to make a bad comment about my dad on this blog then you and I better get off it and respect david and do it in the email service. For I have nothing else to say to you I will write you off like I did Dan The Original. Go home to mom where you belong.
Mike, is that your name?
When did you came up with such language like that to the females? Do you know what disrespect to the females mean? or did your father didn't teach you how?
God I am having trouble here with my own husband trying to put me down in life and what I read on this blog about the 13 year old boy doesnt have to do with you.
So I should say good day to you sir.
and oh if you want you can come to my Swedish house and I will give you my old vikings ways of how I handle stress.
A Movie
I have a nineteen year old daughter that is single and she has a mind of her own. if you would like you can go into my face book and see a pic of her. You will have to go under Sandra Hutchens and look behind my yahoo avatar. Also what is between you and i don't effect what goes on between yo and my daughter
Sandra
I accept your apology I guess we got off on the wrong foot together lets let by gones be bygones. Both of my daughters are free to see anyone they want. But I have had one hell of a February and a lot of issues have taken place.
Mike
I don't normally do this and you two share something in common she will let you know though. All I ask is that you treat her like a lady and be nice to her. I gave your situation some thought and maybe you and her can talk over the airways. But I will leave that up to the two of you.
Sandra
Mike - Hope you won't be judging all women (or potential friends) by the ones who misunderstand and/or disappoint you. While it may not feel good to cut ties with those folks, remember that even when you are close to folks for a long time, it is still possible to outgrow them and vice versa. It is also possible to have friends with whom you don't share your deepest secrets. I have friends from pretty much each phase of my life and I do not confide in them equally on all subjects.
Consider a multi-faceted prism (or a disco ball, if you're old enough to remember that): I believe that people's personalities are very much like that with many sides that don't show at the same time. We have friends that interest us or fill our needs to share or experience different things. If people treat you differently because you revealed something unusual about yourself, it's possible that it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with them. As an adult, I have met so many other people who were abused as children in some of the craziest ways that you can imagine. Sometimes, when people feel the need to share things of a sexual nature, it stirs up all sorts of issues in others that they have from their own lives and it APPEARS that it was related to the first person's revelation...but it wasn't. Sometimes it's NOT all about you - it just may feel like it is.
I think that many of us from the baby-boomer era got the short end of the sex-education stick. Our parents' generation was waffling between drifting away from organized religion but being held to more puritanical, societal norms when they may have felt differently inside. The internet affords all of us a more relaxed way to seek and find differing views and ways of interpreting what we were always taught as well as what we are discovering now. I keep saying that it's all about perspective. I'll wager that the parents of this child-father thought that he was as innocent and unknowing as they were at his age. And in an information age, it's surprising that he was so clueless yet probably more common than we'd like to believe. And some among us may be mixing his story with yours or overlaying it in error - any similarity in a storm, eh? Blow it off and stick around. I'm sure that you have plenty more to say and I'd like to hear it.
Mike
Apologies accepted this one is for you. I bet you made your parents proud. Keeping ones virginity is not a bad thing. Let me tell you something when a girl is a virgin she will do the same thing keeping it for the person they want to be with. Because you don't carouse with women don't make you the bad person. One of my ex-husbands was a virgin when someone tells you...in order to be a man you have to go to bed with someone it is not true. That is a decision that is made between you and the person you want to be with. It is like I told my parents about my youngest in which she shares the same fate as you. I had rather her be on that computer talking to guys than out carousing with men. There are people who lost their virginity because it was their decision but think about it like this they are jealous because you have yours and they don't. Be selective in your women.
Sandra
K, thank you for the words of encouragment and advice. I value frienships and I hate the thought of them being broken over something like this, but I think it would be much harder for me if after sex there was an even bigger chance that the friendship would be more in jeopardy because of the very personal nature of what the two friends shared. I beat myself up about it for too long to worry about losing a friend once and a while. I am actually a very positive and love my life kind of guy. I just spent years getting discouraged and I really only started telling people a few years ago. I have lots of stories to tell. Stick around and watch. My dad is at the tail end of the generation you are talking about and what is even more of a grand joke is that he is FULL of emotions but the way he was raised taught him not to share them except through his art. So I got taught how to love by actions and not words. Kind of makes me wonder why I chose to be a writer.
Katherine Rose,
I think you might be jumping in a little late on the conversation regarding me and my comments. First off, I was being sarcastic when I said i'm like the 13 y old boy in that video, which is what that video is too, a joke. The mother of the boy was revealed to have set up the whole thing for publicity the cash that brings sometimes. Sorry to offend. Back up to yesterday's posts and read what I wrote there if you want a broader prespective.
Sandra,
you can't be my mother because you're acting much more like my big sister (and that is a compliment). I am trying to be free and honest with what I say on this site, especially when it makes my emotions jump like your comment. If I hide behind how I feel I won't get anywhere. I'm glad you're speaking to me again.
Part of what happens with my cycle of behavior is I dread telling the friend in question and I imagine (like David teaches I need to focus on being in the moment and not let these voices take charge) all the disaster scenarios I can think of and of course that gets my mind into a negative place and finally I feel the need to confront when there is really no need. I attack and try and hurt people (not physically obviously, but that did happen too when I was younger) by insulting them and by not being descent. I think if I give you a reason to hate me other than my news, it will hurt me less. But I always feel guilty after because I know I'm being an ass.
Mike
Katherine Rose,
I forgot a few responses.
Yes Mike is my real name. I swore at Sandra because I knew she could take it and she is like a sister to me now so I had to use my real whiny voice to get her to know that I was mad at her. We're fine now. I have a deep respect for ALL people but it is 2009 and swearing is awfully common way to speak so I don't think people get as offended as you think.
Yeah but you need to keep it down of what you say to my mom lol ok? I know how it was like to be at teenage age, we all cursed and all but like i said you need to think before you say something out loud because sometimes an adult can take it offensive to the comments that us young ones say or said. I'm almost near my 30s and learning about adult hood, everyone else here does so when you are mad at someone just take your time to think of what you are going to say and say it in a nice way ok.
Hi katherin
Nice to see you in here, mom-daughter team double the trouble. Love it. I am trying to get my sister in here, she is totally out of her mind. Sorry to hear you are being put down, nothin worse when others try to make them self feel better by by making you feel less of yourself. It's really an mental abuse.
Marina
Yeah I know but right now I am confused of either to stay with him and keep on loving him forever or just go on loving him as a friend because the way he is treating me its confusing me, its like he is bipolar or something
The thing is you have no kids at this point. I would figure out real fast because honestly it's like living half ass. Nobody should put anyone down. Give yourself some time alone you really can't think clear when the person is too close to you. I was married to a guy who had the ability to build me up to be able to handle everything in life. A marriage before anything else has to have the qualities of what you would expect from a best friend. If that is not the case you are going to have a rough road ahead. Granted we all know that at time things are not all 0rosy, but ultimately you have to figure out what makes you happy, and if you are not then maybe you have to chose a different path. How about a third party intervention like a counselor. Getting either sides family involved can really harm long term if you do end up workking it out.
True and you see I tried to talk to him about a marriage counseling and he refuses and even his mother told him he needs to be in an anger management. But what was worse of it is that he keeps on calling me and asking me when i am coming home. He even ask me that while i was on a job doing some cabling for the network, I was in a dangerous place when he was calling me that and I got fired because of it.
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